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"Chris, is your attitude towards Lan Li..." Don Hall knew the character of his friend, and he hesitated whether he should give advice, but after thinking about it, he still didn't hold back and considered his own. In his tone, he said sincerely, "I mean, shouldn't it be more peaceful?"
Williams' reflex arc length was still the same slow, and he looked at Don Hall in a puzzled manner.
Don Hall had to explain more clearly, "I mean, it was Lanly Hall. Some expressions of words should be...not so sharp."
Williams realized this, but he was not nervous at all. Instead, he laughed happily, "Tang, have you considered such a possibility? If we treat Lan Li carefully, deliberately distinguish our own attitude. , Then is this another kind of disrespect for Lan Li? He is an actor, Tang, he is just an actor."
Williams is not stupid, but wise and stupid. He has his own wisdom in life, behavior, and handling. It may not be correct, but it may not be wrong.
Don Hall tried to refute, opening his mouth, only to find that he couldn't say anything.
Williams has calmly put into work again-after the video clip just finished playing, "Len Li, do I need to play it again? Or let's change a clip and you try to see it again?"
"Just this clip, I'll record it again." Lan Li said simply.
…
On the first day of dubbing for the "Big Hero Marines" into the studio, the work was more difficult than expected, happier than expected, and progress was slower than expected.
Seth Rogen was indeed playing tricks on Lan Li. Many of those serious suggestions were deliberately to make Lan Li embarrassed. Seth is indeed a master at being a serious nonsense; but it is undeniable. Yes, there are some really positive suggestions.
For animation dubbing, the whole person must maintain a relatively relaxed attitude, not to say that it is always happy and carefree, but to interpret those emotions in a pure and simple way, just like looking at the world from the perspective of a child General: There are happiness and sadness, pain and happiness in their world, but their understanding is different from that of adults.
This also means that a relatively pure state must be maintained during the dubbing process.
Of course, this does not mean that it is simple and rude or superficial and naive, nor does it mean that it is specifically photographed for children to see, but that it shows those more simple and straightforward emotions, viewing the world of adults with children’s eyes, and providing a review for adults. One's own childhood may be an opportunity to peek into the child's world, and then produce his own understanding.
It's like Pixar animation.
Many people say that Pixar animation is actually filmed for adults, but it is not always true. The fantastic imagination and delicate and tender humanistic care hidden in Pixar animation can always interpret different meanings in the eyes of children and adults. Watch The perception after the movie is also different.
In other words, what the dubbing presents is a state, not necessarily superficial or naive, but truly pure and simple emotions.
Therefore, a relaxed state of mind, a pure innocence, and a relaxed state are the prerequisites for animation dubbing-actors need to really enjoy it in order to interpret the simple happiness behind those lines. The emotions that naturally radiate from the inside out can give cartoon characters more emotional texture.
Although Seth Logan tried to dig a hole to make Lan Li jump off, his advice helped a lot, which also kept the atmosphere in the studio relaxed and pleasant.
Like now.
Lan Li was beating the table next to him with his fists rhythmically. The pencil boxes and books placed on the table began to vibrate slightly as if they had encountered an earthquake, and then twisted his upper body and spoke into the microphone. , "Nothing! No idea at all!"
Every time you say a word, you beat it once, as if you were... playing a drum.
"Useless! Empty! Brain!"
Strikes one word at a time, becoming denser and denser, fitting a wonderful rhythm. Standing next to Scott and Daniel can't help but smile; more importantly, Lan Li twisted his body to the point that he There is still a little space between his voice and the microphone. In order to ensure that his lines can be accurately picked up, he has to rely on the strength of his waist and abdomen to turn around. His appearance and posture are no longer the usual manners at all, and there are even some funny and precarious ones. The appearance seems to be "falling down" at any time, which makes people laugh.
At this time, Lan Li and Daniel are recording another scene.
Xiaohong decided to apply for his brother’s school. He had to come up with an innovative idea to impress the professors and judges and let them recruit Xiaohong into the university; but after trying hard, Xiaohong could not think of any ideas, so he used his own He beat the table with his head to vent his dissatisfaction.
This is the scene just now.
Seeing Lan Li's posture and movements, Daniel suffocated a hard smile, but he still held back his smile and continued to cooperate, creating a contrast with the calm robotic tone, creating a feeling of spitting, "Wow. Fourteen. Was it a complete defeat at the age of? It's sad."
Lan Li raised his hands high, leaned back exaggeratedly, and made a sagging shoulder movement. There was no special sound, but he used his whole body movements to interpret his frustration, and he didn't need to observe at all. With the big screen, you can really feel the feeling of loss through Lan Li's movements.
But Lan Li was in a completely relaxed state, his movements and postures were even more exaggerated than the stage, just like an underage teenager who was irritating, so that his feet stepped back a little bit, and the soles of his feet staggered a little, and the result was embarrassing. The ground retreated two steps in a row, and almost fell straight back and fell a split.
Such an embarrassing movement is completely at the level of physical hilariousness, which makes people burst into laughter. Without the burden of idols at all, even the image of aristocracy gradually disappeared, showing the vigorous vigor of a young boy. The freedom and coziness exuding from the inside out made the whole studio full of cheerful atmosphere.
Because of Lan Li’s fall after an accident, the recording process was naturally interrupted, but Lan Li didn’t seem to realize it at all. He still stood up unrelentingly and continued the performance just now, and it was extremely natural—
Lan Li stood up straight again, like a meerkat, looking left and right nervously, as if he was observing whether his embarrassment was exposed and was seen by other friends; that nervous and alert posture completely concealed the embarrassment just now. Live, but created a particularly sharp contrast, and the feeling of joy became more and more intense.
One second, two seconds.
Such a vigilant posture lasted only two seconds, and then you can see the shoulders drooping down again, the eyebrows and the corners of the mouth are hanging down with the shoulders, just like a clown-a circus clown instead of a "dark knight" The clown in there also showed a pitiful expression in his eyes, and after subverting the contrast, he created a contrast again. The continuous huge contrast did not violate the sense of harmony, but showed a naive childishness between his gestures.
"I can't think of anything anymore! I'm done! I will never be admitted!" The complaining and complaining voice was like the end of the world after the second-second teenager got his shirt dirty, and his cries were trembling slightly. With a young and immature simplicity, the audience couldn't help but laugh secretly.
Daniel wanted to laugh, and wanted to laugh very much—actually, the dubbing has been interrupted now. Even if he burst into laughter, there is no problem, but under the hard performance of Lan Li, he involuntarily followed his seriousness. He held back his smile and stood up. Straighten his body, took a step towards where Lan Li was, and then stopped beside Lan Li.
"I haven't given up hope for you yet." Daniel said in a low voice, very sincerely.
After a pause, Daniel suddenly stretched out his hands forward. Just when everyone thought that Daniel was about to hold Lan Li, they saw him cross Lan Li and grabbed Lan Li’s coat hanging on the chair next to him. He pulled up, and Lan Li was taken aback by his fake actions.
I don’t know if I’m too involved in the role, UU read www.uukanshu. Com was still too relaxed, Lan Li also became startled, and screamed along with Daniel's movements, "Ah..." and showed an upward climbing posture, and finally reached the highest point. , The sound is broken like this...broken...sound...
Outside the studio, Williams was already full of laughter; Don Hall endured and endured, but after all he didn't hold it back, he just snorted and laughed.
At this moment, on the big screen, Ah Zheng grabbed Xiao Hong's two ankles, and then hung Xiao Hong directly behind his back like an upside-down pocket, and began to spin slowly.
Daniel also carried Lan Li’s jacket and began to spin around in the recording studio. His cheerful posture was completely like a child who had not grown up. He once again found his childlike innocence, and his face can clearly capture the completeness. The smile that bloomed, as if he was really jumping with his brother on his back.
Lan Li also let himself jump to the rhythm of Daniel. The two of them were like fools, playing a trampoline game in the recording studio. At the same time, Lan Li did not forget to let out a frightened cry, "Uh...ah...you are here What are you doing?"
"Change your angle!" Daniel's breathing also began to become turbulent-because he jumped too intensely, and then said breathlessly, "Think about it with your oversized mind!"
"What?" Lan Li kept jumping and turning in circles, his tongue was a little vague.
"Look at the problem from another angle." Daniel finally stopped jumping, his head seemed a little lack of oxygen, and his speaking rhythm was also a little disordered.
"Huh..." Lan Li breathed out a long breath without speaking, as if he had fallen into a short thought gap, letting him release all fatigue and embarrassment wanton and openly.
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"Chris, is your attitude towards Lan Li..." Don Hall knew the character of his friend, and he hesitated whether he should give advice, but after thinking about it, he still didn't hold back and considered his own. In his tone, he said sincerely, "I mean, shouldn't it be more peaceful?"
Williams' reflex arc length was still the same slow, and he looked at Don Hall in a puzzled manner.
Don Hall had to explain more clearly, "I mean, it was Lanly Hall. Some expressions of words should be...not so sharp."
Williams realized this, but he was not nervous at all. Instead, he laughed happily, "Tang, have you considered such a possibility? If we treat Lan Li carefully, deliberately distinguish our own attitude. , Then is this another kind of disrespect for Lan Li? He is an actor, Tang, he is just an actor."
Williams is not stupid, but wise and stupid. He has his own wisdom in life, behavior, and handling. It may not be correct, but it may not be wrong.
Don Hall tried to refute, opening his mouth, only to find that he couldn't say anything.
Williams has calmly put into work again-after the video clip just finished playing, "Len Li, do I need to play it again? Or let's change a clip and you try to see it again?"
"Just this clip, I'll record it again." Lan Li said simply.
…
On the first day of dubbing for the "Big Hero Marines" into the studio, the work was more difficult than expected, happier than expected, and progress was slower than expected.
Seth Rogen was indeed playing tricks on Lan Li. Many of those serious suggestions were deliberately to make Lan Li embarrassed. Seth is indeed a master at being a serious nonsense; but it is undeniable. Yes, there are some really positive suggestions.
For animation dubbing, the whole person must maintain a relatively relaxed attitude, not to say that it is always happy and carefree, but to interpret those emotions in a pure and simple way, just like looking at the world from the perspective of a child General: There are happiness and sadness, pain and happiness in their world, but their understanding is different from that of adults.
This also means that a relatively pure state must be maintained during the dubbing process.
Of course, this does not mean that it is simple and rude or superficial and naive, nor does it mean that it is specifically photographed for children to see, but that it shows those more simple and straightforward emotions, viewing the world of adults with children’s eyes, and providing a review for adults. One's own childhood may be an opportunity to peek into the child's world, and then produce his own understanding.
It's like Pixar animation.
Many people say that Pixar animation is actually filmed for adults, but it is not always true. The fantastic imagination and delicate and tender humanistic care hidden in Pixar animation can always interpret different meanings in the eyes of children and adults. Watch The perception after the movie is also different.
In other words, what the dubbing presents is a state, not necessarily superficial or naive, but truly pure and simple emotions.
Therefore, a relaxed state of mind, a pure innocence, and a relaxed state are the prerequisites for animation dubbing-actors need to really enjoy it in order to interpret the simple happiness behind those lines. The emotions that naturally radiate from the inside out can give cartoon characters more emotional texture.
Although Seth Logan tried to dig a hole to make Lan Li jump off, his advice helped a lot, which also kept the atmosphere in the studio relaxed and pleasant.
Like now.
Lan Li was beating the table next to him with his fists rhythmically. The pencil boxes and books placed on the table began to vibrate slightly as if they had encountered an earthquake, and then twisted his upper body and spoke into the microphone. , "Nothing! No idea at all!"
Every time you say a word, you beat it once, as if you were... playing a drum.
"Useless! Empty! Brain!"
Strikes one word at a time, becoming denser and denser, fitting a wonderful rhythm. Standing next to Scott and Daniel can't help but smile; more importantly, Lan Li twisted his body to the point that he There is still a little space between his voice and the microphone. In order to ensure that his lines can be accurately picked up, he has to rely on the strength of his waist and abdomen to turn around. His appearance and posture are no longer the usual manners at all, and there are even some funny and precarious ones. The appearance seems to be "falling down" at any time, which makes people laugh.
At this time, Lan Li and Daniel are recording another scene.
Xiaohong decided to apply for his brother’s school. He had to come up with an innovative idea to impress the professors and judges and let them recruit Xiaohong into the university; but after trying hard, Xiaohong could not think of any ideas, so he used his own He beat the table with his head to vent his dissatisfaction.
This is the scene just now.
Seeing Lan Li's posture and movements, Daniel suffocated a hard smile, but he still held back his smile and continued to cooperate, creating a contrast with the calm robotic tone, creating a feeling of spitting, "Wow. Fourteen. Was it a complete defeat at the age of? It's sad."
Lan Li raised his hands high, leaned back exaggeratedly, and made a sagging shoulder movement. There was no special sound, but he used his whole body movements to interpret his frustration, and he didn't need to observe at all. With the big screen, you can really feel the feeling of loss through Lan Li's movements.
But Lan Li was in a completely relaxed state, his movements and postures were even more exaggerated than the stage, just like an underage teenager who was irritating, so that his feet stepped back a little bit, and the soles of his feet staggered a little, and the result was embarrassing. The ground retreated two steps in a row, and almost fell straight back and fell a split.
Such an embarrassing movement is completely at the level of physical hilariousness, which makes people burst into laughter. Without the burden of idols at all, even the image of aristocracy gradually disappeared, showing the vigorous vigor of a young boy. The freedom and coziness exuding from the inside out made the whole studio full of cheerful atmosphere.
Because of Lan Li’s fall after an accident, the recording process was naturally interrupted, but Lan Li didn’t seem to realize it at all. He still stood up unrelentingly and continued the performance just now, and it was extremely natural—
Lan Li stood up straight again, like a meerkat, looking left and right nervously, as if he was observing whether his embarrassment was exposed and was seen by other friends; that nervous and alert posture completely concealed the embarrassment just now. Live, but created a particularly sharp contrast, and the feeling of joy became more and more intense.
One second, two seconds.
Such a vigilant posture lasted only two seconds, and then you can see the shoulders drooping down again, the eyebrows and the corners of the mouth are hanging down with the shoulders, just like a clown-a circus clown instead of a "dark knight" The clown in there also showed a pitiful expression in his eyes, and after subverting the contrast, he created a contrast again. The continuous huge contrast did not violate the sense of harmony, but showed a naive childishness between his gestures.
"I can't think of anything anymore! I'm done! I will never be admitted!" The complaining and complaining voice was like the end of the world after the second-second teenager got his shirt dirty, and his cries were trembling slightly. With a young and immature simplicity, the audience couldn't help but laugh secretly.
Daniel wanted to laugh, and wanted to laugh very much—actually, the dubbing has been interrupted now. Even if he burst into laughter, there is no problem, but under the hard performance of Lan Li, he involuntarily followed his seriousness. He held back his smile and stood up. Straighten his body, took a step towards where Lan Li was, and then stopped beside Lan Li.
"I haven't given up hope for you yet." Daniel said in a low voice, very sincerely.
After a pause, Daniel suddenly stretched out his hands forward. Just when everyone thought that Daniel was about to hold Lan Li, they saw him cross Lan Li and grabbed Lan Li’s coat hanging on the chair next to him. He pulled up, and Lan Li was taken aback by his fake actions.
I don’t know if I’m too involved in the role, UU read www.uukanshu. Com was still too relaxed, Lan Li also became startled, and screamed along with Daniel's movements, "Ah..." and showed an upward climbing posture, and finally reached the highest point. , The sound is broken like this...broken...sound...
Outside the studio, Williams was already full of laughter; Don Hall endured and endured, but after all he didn't hold it back, he just snorted and laughed.
At this moment, on the big screen, Ah Zheng grabbed Xiao Hong's two ankles, and then hung Xiao Hong directly behind his back like an upside-down pocket, and began to spin slowly.
Daniel also carried Lan Li’s jacket and began to spin around in the recording studio. His cheerful posture was completely like a child who had not grown up. He once again found his childlike innocence, and his face can clearly capture the completeness. The smile that bloomed, as if he was really jumping with his brother on his back.
Lan Li also let himself jump to the rhythm of Daniel. The two of them were like fools, playing a trampoline game in the recording studio. At the same time, Lan Li did not forget to let out a frightened cry, "Uh...ah...you are here What are you doing?"
"Change your angle!" Daniel's breathing also began to become turbulent-because he jumped too intensely, and then said breathlessly, "Think about it with your oversized mind!"
"What?" Lan Li kept jumping and turning in circles, his tongue was a little vague.
"Look at the problem from another angle." Daniel finally stopped jumping, his head seemed a little lack of oxygen, and his speaking rhythm was also a little disordered.
"Huh..." Lan Li breathed out a long breath without speaking, as if he had fallen into a short thought gap, letting him release all fatigue and embarrassment wanton and openly.
"Chris, is your attitude towards Lan Li..." Don Hall knew the character of his friend, and he hesitated whether he should give advice, but after thinking about it, he still didn't hold back and considered his own. In his tone, he said sincerely, "I mean, shouldn't it be more peaceful?"Williams' reflex arc length was still the same slow, and he looked at Don Hall in a puzzled manner.Don Hall had to explain more clearly, "I mean, it was Lanly Hall. Some expressions of words should be...not so sharp."Williams realized this, but he was not nervous at all. Instead, he laughed happily, "Tang, have you considered such a possibility? If we treat Lan Li carefully, deliberately distinguish our own attitude. , Then is this another kind of disrespect for Lan Li? He is an actor, Tang, he is just an actor."Williams is not stupid, but wise and stupid. He has his own wisdom in life, behavior, and handling. It may not be correct, but it may not be wrong.Don Hall tried to refute, opening his mouth, only to find that he couldn't say anything.Williams has calmly put into work again-after the video clip just finished playing, "Len Li, do I need to play it again? Or let's change a clip and you try to see it again?""Just this clip, I'll record it again." Lan Li said simply.On the first day of dubbing for the "Big Hero Marines" into the studio, the work was more difficult than expected, happier than expected, and progress was slower than expected.Seth Rogen was indeed playing tricks on Lan Li. Many of those serious suggestions were deliberately to make Lan Li embarrassed. Seth is indeed a master at being a serious nonsense; but it is undeniable. Yes, there are some really positive suggestions.For animation dubbing, the whole person must maintain a relatively relaxed attitude, not to say that it is always happy and carefree, but to interpret those emotions in a pure and simple way, just like looking at the world from the perspective of a child General: There are happiness and sadness, pain and happiness in their world, but their understanding is different from that of adults.This also means that a relatively pure state must be maintained during the dubbing process.Of course, this does not mean that it is simple and rude or superficial and naive, nor does it mean that it is specifically photographed for children to see, but that it shows those more simple and straightforward emotions, viewing the world of adults with children's eyes, and providing a review for adults. One's own childhood may be an opportunity to peek into the child's world, and then produce his own understanding.It's like Pixar animation.Many people say that Pixar animation is actually filmed for adults, but it is not always true. The fantastic imagination and delicate and tender humanistic care hidden in Pixar animation can always interpret different meanings in the eyes of children and adults. Watch The perception after the movie is also different.In other words, what the dubbing presents is a state, not necessarily superficial or naive, but truly pure and simple emotions.Therefore, a relaxed state of mind, a pure innocence, and a relaxed state are the prerequisites for animation dubbing-actors need to really enjoy it in order to interpret the simple happiness behind those lines. The emotions that naturally radiate from the inside out can give cartoon characters more emotional texture.Although Seth Logan tried to dig a hole to make Lan Li jump off, his advice helped a lot, which also kept the atmosphere in the studio relaxed and pleasant.Like now.Lan Li was beating the table next to him with his fists rhythmically. The pencil boxes and books placed on the table began to vibrate slightly as if they had encountered an earthquake, and then twisted his upper body and spoke into the microphone. , "Nothing! No idea at all!"Every time you say a word, you beat it once, as if you were... playing a drum."Useless! Empty! Brain!"Strikes one word at a time, becoming denser and denser, fitting a wonderful rhythm. Standing next to Scott and Daniel can't help but smile; more importantly, Lan Li twisted his body to the point that he There is still a little space between his voice and the microphone. In order to ensure that his lines can be accurately picked up, he has to rely on the strength of his waist and abdomen to turn around. His appearance and posture are no longer the usual manners at all, and there are even some funny and precarious ones. The appearance seems to be "falling down" at any time, which makes people laugh.At this time, Lan Li and Daniel are recording another scene.Xiaohong decided to apply for his brother's school. He had to come up with an innovative idea to impress the professors and judges and let them recruit Xiaohong into the university; but after trying hard, Xiaohong could not think of any ideas, so he used his own He beat the table with his head to vent his dissatisfaction.This is the scene just now.Seeing Lan Li's posture and movements, Daniel suffocated a hard smile, but he still held back his smile and continued to cooperate, creating a contrast with the calm robotic tone, creating a feeling of spitting, "Wow. Fourteen. Was it a complete defeat at the age of? It's sad."Lan Li raised his hands high, leaned back exaggeratedly, and made a sagging shoulder movement. There was no special sound, but he used his whole body movements to interpret his frustration, and he didn't need to observe at all. With the big screen, you can really feel the feeling of loss through Lan Li's movements.But Lan Li was in a completely relaxed state, his movements and postures were even more exaggerated than the stage, just like an underage teenager who was irritating, so that his feet stepped back a little bit, and the soles of his feet staggered a little, and the result was embarrassing. The ground retreated two steps in a row, and almost fell straight back and fell a split.Such an embarrassing movement is completely at the level of physical hilariousness, which makes people burst into laughter. Without the burden of idols at all, even the image of aristocracy gradually disappeared, showing the vigorous vigor of a young boy. The freedom and coziness exuding from the inside out made the whole studio full of cheerful atmosphere.Because of Lan Li's fall after an accident, the recording process was naturally interrupted, but Lan Li didn't seem to realize it at all. He still stood up unrelentingly and continued the performance just now, and it was extremely naturalLan Li stood up straight again, like a meerkat, looking left and right nervously, as if he was observing whether his embarrassment was exposed and was seen by other friends; that nervous and alert posture completely concealed the embarrassment just now. Live, but created a particularly sharp contrast, and the feeling of joy became more and more intense.One second, two seconds.Such a vigilant posture lasted only two seconds, and then you can see the shoulders drooping down again, the eyebrows and the corners of the mouth are hanging down with the shoulders, just like a clown-a circus clown instead of a "dark knight" The clown in there also showed a pitiful expression in his eyes, and after subverting the contrast, he created a contrast again. The continuous huge contrast did not violate the sense of harmony, but showed a naive childishness between his gestures."I can't think of anything anymore! I'm done! I will never be admitted!" The complaining and complaining voice was like the end of the world after the second-second teenager got his shirt dirty, and his cries were trembling slightly. With a young and immature simplicity, the audience couldn't help but laugh secretly.Daniel wanted to laugh, and wanted to laugh very muchactually, the dubbing has been interrupted now. Even if he burst into laughter, there is no problem, but under the hard performance of Lan Li, he involuntarily followed his seriousness. He held back his smile and stood up. Straighten his body, took a step towards where Lan Li was, and then stopped beside Lan Li."I haven't given up hope for you yet." Daniel said in a low voice, very sincerely.After a pause, Daniel suddenly stretched out his hands forward. Just when everyone thought that Daniel was about to hold Lan Li, they saw him cross Lan Li and grabbed Lan Li's coat hanging on the chair next to him. He pulled up, and Lan Li was taken aback by his fake actions.I don't know if I'm too involved in the role, UU read www.uukanshu. Com was still too relaxed, Lan Li also became startled, and screamed along with Daniel's movements, "Ah..." and showed an upward climbing posture, and finally reached the highest point. , The sound is broken like this...broken...sound...Outside the studio, Williams was already full of laughter; Don Hall endured and endured, but after all he didn't hold it back, he just snorted and laughed.At this moment, on the big screen, Ah Zheng grabbed Xiao Hong's two ankles, and then hung Xiao Hong directly behind his back like an upside-down pocket, and began to spin slowly.Daniel also carried Lan Li's jacket and began to spin around in the recording studio. His cheerful posture was completely like a child who had not grown up. He once again found his childlike innocence, and his face can clearly capture the completeness. The smile that bloomed, as if he was really jumping with his brother on his back.Lan Li also let himself jump to the rhythm of Daniel. The two of them were like fools, playing a trampoline game in the recording studio. At the same time, Lan Li did not forget to let out a frightened cry, "Uh...ah...you are here What are you doing?""Change your angle!" Daniel's breathing also began to become turbulent-because he jumped too intensely, and then said breathlessly, "Think about it with your oversized mind!""What?" Lan Li kept jumping and turning in circles, his tongue was a little vague."Look at the problem from another angle." Daniel finally stopped jumping, his head seemed a little lack of oxygen, and his speaking rhythm was also a little disordered."Huh..." Lan Li breathed out a long breath without speaking, as if he had fallen into a short thought gap, letting him release all fatigue and embarrassment wanton and openly.
