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"Their tanks are 20 ton and 50 mm tank guns. Their performance is quite good, especially the protection ability. Our existing tanks can't penetrate them at all. We have to have new tanks." Major belotov said first.
As a tank commander who came back from the Spanish Civil War and had not been washed away, belotov naturally received great attention. In the Spanish Civil War, the Soviet tanks were completely defeated, and the senior commanders of the whole Soviet Union were quite shocked.
"Therefore, we suggest that our tanks must resist the direct fire of 50mm artillery at a short distance and the oblique fire of 75mm artillery at a medium and long distance." Don't go on, lotov.
Close range is within 500 meters, medium and long range is beyond 500 meters. The other party is equipped with 50 mm tank guns and a small number of 75 mm guns. Therefore, our own tanks must develop new tanks according to these indicators in order to make the tank soldiers have confidence.
"It seems that we must develop new tanks." Stalin, with the a big smoke pot in his mouth, looked gloomy: "do you have a good plan?"
At this meeting, the designers of tank industry also came.
In the 1930s, the Soviet Union had two tank production bases under the leadership of the Red Army's General Administration of vehicles, armor and tanks, headed by i.a. halevsky.
One of them is located in Leningrad, which is a production base composed of Kirov factory and Red October factory; The other is Kharkov locomotive factory.
The former is responsible for producing T-28, T-35 and T-26 tanks, while the latter is responsible for producing BT series fast tanks.
Hearing Stalin's question, kogin spoke first.
Joseph yakovlevych kogin is now the chief designer of the Leningrad Kirov factory. There are three factories in Leningrad, namely, voloshilov factory, Bolshevik factory and Kirov factory, and Kirov factory is the leader.
"We believe that if we want to increase the protection of our tanks, we must increase armor protection." "So we decided to replace the existing T-28 tank with a new engine and increase our armor protection," kogin said
Kejing talked with assurance. As a famous tank designer, he had unique advantages. For example, he was the son-in-law of Soviet marshal Voroshilov! He often met Stalin and was highly valued by Stalin.
Now, hearing kejing's plan, Stalin nodded aside, increasing armor protection, increasing vehicle weight and replacing new engines. These are the right way.
Kejing reported for two hours. He had three schemes, each of which was introduced in detail.
It was not until he had finished his introduction that it was the turn of the Kharkov factory.
Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin became the chief designer of tank design room of Kharkov factory last year. His thought is very different from that of kogin.
"We believe that only increasing the weight will lead to other problems. For example, our current T-35 tank weighs 52 tons, but various mechanical faults emerge one after another. We believe that the weight of the tank, controlled within 30 tons, is in line with our current technical level. "
This made kejing quite dissatisfied.
In fact, Koshkin is not wrong. The heavy multi turret tank T-35 is the pride of the Soviet Union. Every military parade in Moscow caused a sensation in the Red Square.
However, that's all. The total output of this kind of tank is less than 100. Except for attracting attention during the military parade, it has no combat ability and has many faults. It can be said that this tank is for the sake of putting on airs, showing that the advanced nature of the Soviet tanks is almost the same as that of -8.
Koshkin is still relatively young and won't say the same thing in officialdom. He doesn't know that his remarks have been blacklisted by Koshkin.
"Therefore, our design scheme is to increase protection through bulletproof shape and inclined armor. We have observed that German tanks use inclined decks. Under the same weight, inclined armor can have better protection ability. We also intend to do so. Moreover, we should use casting to get a better bulletproof shape. "
Koshkin submitted his own design scheme, code A-32. After major belotov got the design scheme, he agreed in his heart, but it was inconvenient to express his opinions immediately because of kogin's face.
Only by increasing the weight, it is definitely better to change the shape!
"Our tank is a general-purpose tank. It integrates the high speed of BT series tanks, the firepower of T-28 and the compactness of T-26. The emergence of general-purpose tanks can completely save the cost of troops." Koshkin continued.
"The tank you designed doesn't seem to have dual-purpose wheels and shoes?" Kejing suddenly found something and asked Koshkin.
In this era, dual-purpose wheels and shoes are still advocated. The BT fast tanks of the Soviet Union are all like this. When the tracks are removed, they are wheels. When they are installed on the road, they can cross-country. It seems to be an all-round type, but in fact, they are chicken ribs.
The army rarely uses the wheel mode of BT tank, which is too troublesome. At the same time, this design will increase the complexity of production and its own weight.
Koshkin said his ideas: "we have observed that German tanks have abandoned dual-purpose wheels and shoes and all use crawler chassis. We think this is our development direction."
People on one side shook their heads. Marshal Voroshilov, a member of the people's Committee for national defense of the Soviet Union, resolutely opposed the pure crawler: "we must not give up the wheel type high-speed travel, which will make our troops lose the ability of rapid mobility!"
Stalin had a big pot in his mouth and never spoke.
To be fair, Stalin was not particularly in favor of pure crawler. However, now that all Germans are tracked, it shows that this method is beneficial. Otherwise, how can Germans use it like this?
However, what is suitable for Germany is not necessarily suitable for the Soviet Union. After all, the Soviet Union's territory is too vast. Before entering the theater, the high-speed wheel scheme is also indispensable.
"Comrade Koshkin, I need you to prove the superiority of the pure track scheme." Stalin said: "it is possible to make a combination of wheels and shoes at the same time and compare the two."
In this way, Stalin made the decision, and Koshkin frowned and combined the wheel and shoe? There is no space reserved for their own tanks! Such an improvement is meaningless.
I can promise first, but the focus should be on the crawler!
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"Their tanks are 20 ton and 50 mm tank guns. Their performance is quite good, especially the protection ability. Our existing tanks can't penetrate them at all. We have to have new tanks." Major belotov said first.
As a tank commander who came back from the Spanish Civil War and had not been washed away, belotov naturally received great attention. In the Spanish Civil War, the Soviet tanks were completely defeated, and the senior commanders of the whole Soviet Union were quite shocked.
"Therefore, we suggest that our tanks must resist the direct fire of 50mm artillery at a short distance and the oblique fire of 75mm artillery at a medium and long distance." Don't go on, lotov.
Close range is within 500 meters, medium and long range is beyond 500 meters. The other party is equipped with 50 mm tank guns and a small number of 75 mm guns. Therefore, our own tanks must develop new tanks according to these indicators in order to make the tank soldiers have confidence.
"It seems that we must develop new tanks." Stalin, with the a big smoke pot in his mouth, looked gloomy: "do you have a good plan?"
At this meeting, the designers of tank industry also came.
In the 1930s, the Soviet Union had two tank production bases under the leadership of the Red Army's General Administration of vehicles, armor and tanks, headed by i.a. halevsky.
One of them is located in Leningrad, which is a production base composed of Kirov factory and Red October factory; The other is Kharkov locomotive factory.
The former is responsible for producing T-28, T-35 and T-26 tanks, while the latter is responsible for producing BT series fast tanks.
Hearing Stalin's question, kogin spoke first.
Joseph yakovlevych kogin is now the chief designer of the Leningrad Kirov factory. There are three factories in Leningrad, namely, voloshilov factory, Bolshevik factory and Kirov factory, and Kirov factory is the leader.
"We believe that if we want to increase the protection of our tanks, we must increase armor protection." "So we decided to replace the existing T-28 tank with a new engine and increase our armor protection," kogin said
Kejing talked with assurance. As a famous tank designer, he had unique advantages. For example, he was the son-in-law of Soviet marshal Voroshilov! He often met Stalin and was highly valued by Stalin.
Now, hearing kejing's plan, Stalin nodded aside, increasing armor protection, increasing vehicle weight and replacing new engines. These are the right way.
Kejing reported for two hours. He had three schemes, each of which was introduced in detail.
It was not until he had finished his introduction that it was the turn of the Kharkov factory.
Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin became the chief designer of tank design room of Kharkov factory last year. His thought is very different from that of kogin.
"We believe that only increasing the weight will lead to other problems. For example, our current T-35 tank weighs 52 tons, but various mechanical faults emerge one after another. We believe that the weight of the tank, controlled within 30 tons, is in line with our current technical level. "
This made kejing quite dissatisfied.
In fact, Koshkin is not wrong. The heavy multi turret tank T-35 is the pride of the Soviet Union. Every military parade in Moscow caused a sensation in the Red Square.
However, that's all. The total output of this kind of tank is less than 100. Except for attracting attention during the military parade, it has no combat ability and has many faults. It can be said that this tank is for the sake of putting on airs, showing that the advanced nature of the Soviet tanks is almost the same as that of -8.
Koshkin is still relatively young and won't say the same thing in officialdom. He doesn't know that his remarks have been blacklisted by Koshkin.
"Therefore, our design scheme is to increase protection through bulletproof shape and inclined armor. We have observed that German tanks use inclined decks. Under the same weight, inclined armor can have better protection ability. We also intend to do so. Moreover, we should use casting to get a better bulletproof shape. "
Koshkin submitted his own design scheme, code A-32. After major belotov got the design scheme, he agreed in his heart, but it was inconvenient to express his opinions immediately because of kogin's face.
Only by increasing the weight, it is definitely better to change the shape!
"Our tank is a general-purpose tank. It integrates the high speed of BT series tanks, the firepower of T-28 and the compactness of T-26. The emergence of general-purpose tanks can completely save the cost of troops." Koshkin continued.
"The tank you designed doesn't seem to have dual-purpose wheels and shoes?" Kejing suddenly found something and asked Koshkin.
In this era, dual-purpose wheels and shoes are still advocated. The BT fast tanks of the Soviet Union are all like this. When the tracks are removed, they are wheels. When they are installed on the road, they can cross-country. It seems to be an all-round type, but in fact, they are chicken ribs.
The army rarely uses the wheel mode of BT tank, which is too troublesome. At the same time, this design will increase the complexity of production and its own weight.
Koshkin said his ideas: "we have observed that German tanks have abandoned dual-purpose wheels and shoes and all use crawler chassis. We think this is our development direction."
People on one side shook their heads. Marshal Voroshilov, a member of the people's Committee for national defense of the Soviet Union, resolutely opposed the pure crawler: "we must not give up the wheel type high-speed travel, which will make our troops lose the ability of rapid mobility!"
Stalin had a big pot in his mouth and never spoke.
To be fair, Stalin was not particularly in favor of pure crawler. However, now that all Germans are tracked, it shows that this method is beneficial. Otherwise, how can Germans use it like this?
However, what is suitable for Germany is not necessarily suitable for the Soviet Union. After all, the Soviet Union's territory is too vast. Before entering the theater, the high-speed wheel scheme is also indispensable.
"Comrade Koshkin, I need you to prove the superiority of the pure track scheme." Stalin said: "it is possible to make a combination of wheels and shoes at the same time and compare the two."
In this way, Stalin made the decision, and Koshkin frowned and combined the wheel and shoe? There is no space reserved for their own tanks! Such an improvement is meaningless.
I can promise first, but the focus should be on the crawler!
"Their tanks are 20 ton and 50 mm tank guns. Their performance is quite good, especially the protection ability. Our existing tanks can't penetrate them at all. We have to have new tanks." Major belotov said first.As a tank commander who came back from the Spanish Civil War and had not been washed away, belotov naturally received great attention. In the Spanish Civil War, the Soviet tanks were completely defeated, and the senior commanders of the whole Soviet Union were quite shocked."Therefore, we suggest that our tanks must resist the direct fire of 50mm artillery at a short distance and the oblique fire of 75mm artillery at a medium and long distance." Don't go on, lotov.Close range is within 500 meters, medium and long range is beyond 500 meters. The other party is equipped with 50 mm tank guns and a small number of 75 mm guns. Therefore, our own tanks must develop new tanks according to these indicators in order to make the tank soldiers have confidence."It seems that we must develop new tanks." Stalin, with the a big smoke pot in his mouth, looked gloomy: "do you have a good plan?"At this meeting, the designers of tank industry also came.In the 1930s, the Soviet Union had two tank production bases under the leadership of the Red Army's General Administration of vehicles, armor and tanks, headed by i.a. halevsky.One of them is located in Leningrad, which is a production base composed of Kirov factory and Red October factory; The other is Kharkov locomotive factory.The former is responsible for producing T-28, T-35 and T-26 tanks, while the latter is responsible for producing BT series fast tanks.Hearing Stalin's question, kogin spoke first.Joseph yakovlevych kogin is now the chief designer of the Leningrad Kirov factory. There are three factories in Leningrad, namely, voloshilov factory, Bolshevik factory and Kirov factory, and Kirov factory is the leader."We believe that if we want to increase the protection of our tanks, we must increase armor protection." "So we decided to replace the existing T-28 tank with a new engine and increase our armor protection," kogin saidKejing talked with assurance. As a famous tank designer, he had unique advantages. For example, he was the son-in-law of Soviet marshal Voroshilov! He often met Stalin and was highly valued by Stalin.Now, hearing kejing's plan, Stalin nodded aside, increasing armor protection, increasing vehicle weight and replacing new engines. These are the right way.Kejing reported for two hours. He had three schemes, each of which was introduced in detail.It was not until he had finished his introduction that it was the turn of the Kharkov factory.Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin became the chief designer of tank design room of Kharkov factory last year. His thought is very different from that of kogin."We believe that only increasing the weight will lead to other problems. For example, our current T-35 tank weighs 52 tons, but various mechanical faults emerge one after another. We believe that the weight of the tank, controlled within 30 tons, is in line with our current technical level. "This made kejing quite dissatisfied.In fact, Koshkin is not wrong. The heavy multi turret tank T-35 is the pride of the Soviet Union. Every military parade in Moscow caused a sensation in the Red Square.However, that's all. The total output of this kind of tank is less than 100. Except for attracting attention during the military parade, it has no combat ability and has many faults. It can be said that this tank is for the sake of putting on airs, showing that the advanced nature of the Soviet tanks is almost the same as that of -8.Koshkin is still relatively young and won't say the same thing in officialdom. He doesn't know that his remarks have been blacklisted by Koshkin."Therefore, our design scheme is to increase protection through bulletproof shape and inclined armor. We have observed that German tanks use inclined decks. Under the same weight, inclined armor can have better protection ability. We also intend to do so. Moreover, we should use casting to get a better bulletproof shape. "Koshkin submitted his own design scheme, code A-32. After major belotov got the design scheme, he agreed in his heart, but it was inconvenient to express his opinions immediately because of kogin's face.Only by increasing the weight, it is definitely better to change the shape!"Our tank is a general-purpose tank. It integrates the high speed of BT series tanks, the firepower of T-28 and the compactness of T-26. The emergence of general-purpose tanks can completely save the cost of troops." Koshkin continued."The tank you designed doesn't seem to have dual-purpose wheels and shoes?" Kejing suddenly found something and asked Koshkin.In this era, dual-purpose wheels and shoes are still advocated. The BT fast tanks of the Soviet Union are all like this. When the tracks are removed, they are wheels. When they are installed on the road, they can cross-country. It seems to be an all-round type, but in fact, they are chicken ribs.The army rarely uses the wheel mode of BT tank, which is too troublesome. At the same time, this design will increase the complexity of production and its own weight.Koshkin said his ideas: "we have observed that German tanks have abandoned dual-purpose wheels and shoes and all use crawler chassis. We think this is our development direction."People on one side shook their heads. Marshal Voroshilov, a member of the people's Committee for national defense of the Soviet Union, resolutely opposed the pure crawler: "we must not give up the wheel type high-speed travel, which will make our troops lose the ability of rapid mobility!"Stalin had a big pot in his mouth and never spoke.To be fair, Stalin was not particularly in favor of pure crawler. However, now that all Germans are tracked, it shows that this method is beneficial. Otherwise, how can Germans use it like this?However, what is suitable for Germany is not necessarily suitable for the Soviet Union. After all, the Soviet Union's territory is too vast. Before entering the theater, the high-speed wheel scheme is also indispensable."Comrade Koshkin, I need you to prove the superiority of the pure track scheme." Stalin said: "it is possible to make a combination of wheels and shoes at the same time and compare the two."In this way, Stalin made the decision, and Koshkin frowned and combined the wheel and shoe? There is no space reserved for their own tanks! Such an improvement is meaningless.I can promise first, but the focus should be on the crawler!
